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Great, okay. Hey, everybody! We’re live! And in this site Steve and I are going to talking to you about how to do a tub-to-shower conversion. And so we’ve been working on this, I should say Steve’s been working on this shower all day.
We’ve been filming and making sites that we’re going to be posting to YouTube. And we’re going to show you how to build this shower using the WEDI Fundo Primo System. We are going to have a step-by-step site tutorial on YouTube showing you how to do that. So this is great if you are in fact doing a tub-to-shower conversion and you want to build a curbed walk-in shower. And obviously we’ve shown you how to do curbless walk-in showers, too, and we’ve got sites on that on YouTube that you can look at. So I’m going to step behind the camera, and Steve is going to show you everything that has been done today in terms of the planning and the prepping of this curbed walk-in shower system. And then he’s going to kind of hint about the next steps that we’re going to take, and I think that will be cool for you if you’re planning a shower system. All right, and then we have some other things that we wanted to talk to you about at the end of the site. So hang tight; I’m going to jump behind the camera here. All right. Hey, guys. So if you saw that last site, we removed the basically standard one-piece tub and shower enclosure. You can always check that out, what we’ve done before. But basically what we’ve got today is we got some new insulation. We put some Roxul insulation up. And we custom built a bench for the shower. Now I always get a lot of questions from my clients or DIYers that are doing this and how to do about doing this. It seems simple, but you kind of have to think ahead as far as when you’re going to tile this thing and how that’s going to look. And basically that will kind of determine the height and the width. So as we say yesterday, that other fiberglass tub width is 32” wide, and I wanted to maximize the size of this shower. So to this little bump out wall that we have here, we have about 36 ½”. So the idea of keeping this bench shorter than this opening is basically when we get a chords top—this is just a piece of marble that I have here. But imagine you want to have an overhang like you do on your countertop and your kitchen counter or anything else. So you want to have that overhang extend out to the edge of this wall. So you need to have the bench shorter than that wall area so that you have enough room for this overhang. In my opinion, if you brought that overhang out past the wall, I think this kind of looks a little sloppy, kind of a little forced. So basically I kept it in about an inch from the edge. And basically the construction of this is really simple. I basically just kind of created a knee wall. Most benches, in my opinion, should be about between 22” and 24” overall height. So right now we have 20 3/8” to top of this. And then we’ll be adding the WEDI Board. You cover the top of this to waterproof this. And that’s the reason why you want to use this ¾” plywood. You want to have something stable and be able to keep the load of this thing. Because WEDI is only ½”. This is pretty strong stuff. I mean it’s not flexible by any means, and it’s not like your packaging foam that you get with any of your products.
So it’s pretty stiff, but you still want to have a good, solid surface for it to anchor to. So we’ll be having this on top of it and then our final countertop. So by the time we get that countertop, we’ll be about 22”. But you can really customize your bench to whatever height is comfortable to you. So let’s go ahead. I’ll just show you the WEDI system. We cut down the WEDI system to fit this area. It’s 4 foot by… I think it came out 34 ½”. So we got a 3×4 kit, and we cut it down to fit. This is the shower pan. And cutting it down really just entails you taking a circular saw cutting it down to whatever the size you need it and then recreating this dado. And this dado is what receives like the wall panels. So you basically put sealant. WEDI has a special sealant that you put in here, and then you put the board and seal it into place. So that’s kind of why you need to recreate this dado. Pretty simple to do with a circular saw. So place this in. You want to have it pretty tight in between the areas. So when you’re framing this bench, just makes sure that whatever your width is that you’re kind of keeping it that. You don’t really want to have too much room in between the pan and the wall. But the kit comes with a pretty narrow curb. This is the lean curb. They also have a wider curb if you really wanted a larger curb. This would require obviously a bigger threshold. Normally, this bigger curb is 4 ½” so you probably need about a 6” solid top. Now this would be easier if you were doing solid tile. If you were just going to tile this, this might be the better curb to go with because this is pretty slender. Not that that would be a problem with tiling. It might be difficult to make it look good. So say if you had some bullnose tile coming around, that’s a pretty slender piece. I’m not so sure that would look good tile. But having a threshold on top of this allows you to have a smaller piece on it. Basically the larger the curb, the less shower room you’re going to have in this situation. And I’ll show you what I mean here. So basically we have the curb… And by the way, we were keeping this existing floor. I just cut the floor—I cut it with a diamond blade to cut this tile—and allowed my curb to snuggly fit next to it. Okay, so same thing here. I’m recessing my curb away from the edge of the bench. And again the main reason for that is when I have my threshold, I want to have an overhang on it, but I don’t want it to extend out past my bench. Again, you would have this like weird-looking… it just would look kind of sloppy if you just had tile here and you just have this overhang just wildly like that. So if you can make it so that it’s even with the edge of your waterproofing, it’ll look a lot nicer that way. So we just recess this about an inch as well from there. So that basically dictated the size of my pan. My bench dictated the full size of what the area of my shower was. So our overall shower ended up being about 32 ½” within side of it. So it’s really about the same width as the tub was. The tub was 32”. Now there are a couple other options. I guess I should state that when you have this curb top on here—this is just like a U channel. When you put a bench like this, you’re going to have to have a custom glass cut around this. You’re not going to be able to purchase like pre-package deal that’s going to be able to fit over a custom bench. So your local glass company or some glass guy would be able to come out, measure it, and get that ordered for you. But basically we’re going to have the door in the middle of that threshold. And if you can imagine, we’ll have this full bench top overtop. So basically I mean your bench is actually going to be sticking outside of the shower area. Typically it’s usually about 3” or so. Just keep that in mind that that’s kind of… What the look is going to be is that the shower bench is outside of the shower glass essentially. So we actually got a question, Steve, from David about his configuration with the drain. And we actually do have a solution for people who you don’t really want to reconfigure the drain. And why don’t you go ahead and tell them about that. It’s a different size pan. Well, no matter what you do, if you’re taking out a tub and putting in a shower pan, you’re always going to need 2” to connect it. So you’re going to have to do some drain work. But without having to move everything over to like I did here—because obviously the tub drain was over here, and I brought everything to the center drain—the easiest thing would be to get a pan system that has an offset drain. And WEDI sells a kit that has an offset drain that’s approximately 12” from the edge of the pan. So then you can just basically adapt your 2-inch drain piece to your location. So, yeah [coughs]. Excuse me. I’m going to have to get water, sorry. So David, we can actually talk to you more about the drain location and also the size of the drain because I know you said that you’re using two different diameters. So anyhow, we’ll touch base with you after the site to see what we can do to help you out with that. Yeah, I mean the plumbing you’re definitely going to have to basically give me some pictures. Sorry my throat has gone so dry here. Yeah, so anybody who’s reading the site, what you can do is if you’re setting up a pan system like this or a bench, you can send us some picture via email, and we’d be more than happy to help you out with that. So you can send them to me. It’s [email protected] com. And we do this all the time for our members, and we also do that for people who shop on our website for the WEDI system. So you can send us an email with the specifics, and we’d be happy to help you out with any questions that you have. Do that, David. Glad to help. Okay, then there is a couple other options as far as finishing edges. Like I said there is a wider curb like this. But say if you didn’t have the capability of doing a basically a curbless system, you can buy a ramp. So as you can see, this is kind of sloped. So if you were doing this system over concrete and you wanted it to be kind of a curbless system, this might be an option for you because it just slopes down. Here’s a piece of that pan that we cut off, and basically that just kind of sets up right against that. You basically use the joint sealant in between there and set that up into this dado. So it’s pretty easy; it kind of slopes down to nothing. And then if you ever gotten in a situation where you needed a larger pan than what you can sell, you can buy one of these extensions. And then you would extend out your pan an extra twelve inches or so. So that’s always an option if you had some kind of uncommon shower. So if you had an eighty four inch shower or something like that, you can buy an extension that would extend the pan out. So there are a lot of different options in terms of the accessories that go with these systems. And like I said, Steve and I would be more than happy to help anybody out if you do have a question about it. But the ramp is really nice for folks who… you don’t want to go curbless necessarily, but you want to have something that kind of eases into the shower. Even for somebody that you wanted to be wheelchair accessible, it would be a phenomenal option for you there. Okay, and we’ll just show you briefly what we did on our plumbing wall here. The first thing we did was get some SharkBite shutoff valves that basically attaches to the half-inch copper. And then we put the PEX from the—well, not that further up. This is kind of like the easiest way to get some shutoff valves on here. This is a Delta shower valve, so just a standard turn-on. A mixing valve. And then this will go to a three-port diverter. And I find this to be the best way to go between your handheld device and then your showerhead. But it is a three-port, so you could actually add on. Like say if you wanted to put, I don’t know, maybe you wanted to put another showerhead on the other side of the shower, you could just run that over there. Or a lot of people bring down rain showerheads or something like that. But my planning normally is that basically to have the first valve around waist height. So off the pan, we’re about 39”. And then in between these valves I usually put about 10” to 12” between. So we got about 12” here. Now keep in mind plumbing codes vary in every state and everywhere in the country. So you kind of have to dictate to what your codes stick to. But normally like 12” works out pretty well for me because the escutcheon plates are far enough away, and this is still a comfortable height for people to turn it on. And then my showerhead… See the typical showerhead height used to always be 80”. And I find today with the newer showerheads that that is just too low. A lot of these shower heads are just getting bigger and massive and drop down further. So I always try to bring my showerhead up to at least a couple more inches all the way up to 84” depending on how tall the person is using it. But the standard 80-inch mark just doesn’t seem to work anymore for showers. But this is fairly an inexpensive way to get a handheld and showerhead put together. It’s just nice in my opinion if you are a DIYer because you can just, as you saw, Steve just constructed everything out of PEX. So there’s no soldering inside the wall. Of course if you want to use copper, you’re more than welcome to do that with this system here, but you don’t necessarily have to. And like we always mention, you want to leave a little bit of a gap between the two fittings. So between the crimp ring and the fitting. So always keep that in mind with PEX. But it’s super solid, and that’s not going to go anywhere. So our future sites are going to be entailing actually installing the WEDI system, waterproofing the floor area, and then moving onto the tile work. And the tile work, if you plan this out before, you can just go ahead and build it and think about the tile that you’re using and what kind of components you’re finishing the edges and everything. It’s going to help you to build the shower before. Basically just having this little bit of an overhang because I know when I have a solid bench is going to make this look a lot nicer than if I would’ve ran this always straight out the edges of the wall. So it really depends on your overall look of what you’re putting into the shower and custom building it. Yeah, so guys, we’re going to wrap up this site. But in the next sites we’re going to be doing we’re going to show you step-by-step how to install this WEDI Fundo Primo curb shower system. Now we put a link down in the description to our website that shows you the different systems and the different sizes, and you can take a look at them. And, you know, they’re definitely not cheap. But here’s the deal with WEDI. So whether you’re a DIYer or you’re a professional contractor, you get a 10-year warranty on the system. And that’s one of the things that we really, really want to highlight with these shower pans. Sure you can put a mud pan in for literally like $300 and you’re done, right? But who’s going to warranty that system? And that to me is a big problem because I want to know that this is a solid system that’s going to last for years. There’s going to be a warranty that the company covers, and you don’t get that with a mud pan system unless you’re using something like KERDI over top of it. But even then, if the mud pan itself fails, you kind of have an issue. And the traditional mortar bed system works great if you do everything properly. But some of the problems might not even arise for 3, 4, even 5 years later. Because once that mortar bed gets completely saturated with water, and the weephole systems that are on the existing drains, once that they clog, that’s when you have problems where you start to smell mold and water’s just like sitting in that floorbed and not going anywhere. Whereas this system and a lot of newer systems that are out there, everything’s toppable so all the waterproofing’s on top. So as soon as water gets underneath of that tile, it goes straight down into the drain and it’s gone, rather than just filling up the whole mortar bed with water and then just eventually drying out. So really the old system works great if you know how to do it and run through with all the issues that you can have with it. But these systems, you’re just kind of in a way it’s a little bit foolproof as far as having any future problems with it. Yeah, so again, if you have any questions about the WEDI system, please contact us. We’d be more than happy to help you design your system if you go through us to purchase it. We do that a lot, and we’re happy to do it for our fans and our customers. So again the link is down in the description if you want to check out the Fundo Primo system. We’ll help you design the system so that you save money and you build an efficient shower that’s going to last for years, hopefully decades. So that’s it. We’ll see you in the next site. We’re going to have a ton of them coming out. And like I said, we’re going to show you how to build this system step-by-step down the road. All right. Thanks for reading this site. We really appreciate your time, and we’ll talk to you soon. .